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AutoCAD vs Revit
« on: Sep 23, 2020, 20:25:36 PM »
Show of hands. Who is still using Fabrication CADMmep within AutoCAD, and whose made the jump to Revit?
Been tossing this back and forth for quite awhile now, and am wondering if its time to jump over to the dark side  ;D
Been using the software in CAD now for 20 years and am hoping this old dog can learn some new tricks.
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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #1 on: Sep 23, 2020, 22:42:42 PM »
Revit

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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #2 on: Sep 23, 2020, 23:05:39 PM »
We are getting ready to make the leap.  Should be interesting.  Last employer was in the process of making the switch.  Only got 2 weeks of Revit work before everything went south on the job front. 

My concern is what are we missing and how do we fix it quickly when things go wrong?
Ken Taylor - Atlantic Constructors, Inc
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Revit - not ready for Primetime given all of the add-ons, work arounds, and general issues with Fabrication in Revit.  Tired of them taking our money for little results.

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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #3 on: Sep 24, 2020, 10:46:55 AM »
Switched to Fab Parts in Revit 3 years ago.
Never looked at Grandad cad since.
Before you use it on a live job do as much setup as possible. Tags, schedules etc.
You will need at least 1 revit expert. Setting up drawings and view templates etc is a bit daunting at first.
BIM 360 is the only way to run Revit. The performance is terrible storing the models on a local server.

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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #4 on: Sep 24, 2020, 12:37:12 PM »
Howdee

We were hot n heavy getting everything set up weighing the pros and cons .... then we became so overrun with work the powers that be decided we need to stick with what we know and now revit is just a pipe dream .... we are in the Philadelphia PA region ... maybe some day ...sigh

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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #5 on: Sep 24, 2020, 12:48:04 PM »
Forgot to mention.
You only need to know 1% of Revit to model in Fab Parts. It is so similar to CADmep I don't think you will see any slowdown for modelling.
Getting the paper end product is where you will initially lose time.

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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #6 on: Sep 24, 2020, 13:48:24 PM »
....Before you use it on a live job do as much setup as possible. Tags, schedules etc.
You will need at least 1 revit expert. Setting up drawings and view templates etc is a bit daunting at first.
BIM 360 is the only way to run Revit. The performance is terrible storing the models on a local server.
Yes, having an Revit expert does help with all the stuff as mentioned.  We have a guy that has been on it. Not sure I would want to tackle that all at once.
Ken Taylor - Atlantic Constructors, Inc
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Revit - not ready for Primetime given all of the add-ons, work arounds, and general issues with Fabrication in Revit.  Tired of them taking our money for little results.

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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #7 on: Sep 24, 2020, 16:35:39 PM »
Still using Fab, why fix it if it ain't broke?

Worked with another company a couple years ago that made the leap to Revit (on a large job). About 1/2 way thru the job we abandoned that idea and came back to CAD. The spooling and skid fab were severely lacking at the time. Not sure what improvements have been made in that respect.

It seems like Revit uses a lot of processing time, the file sizes are astronomical and there's a much longer adaptation time than CAD.

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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #8 on: Sep 24, 2020, 18:39:09 PM »
AutoCAD and it seems it will be for a very long time as development of Fabrication in Revit is stalled (or so it seems) as it is in CAD, we cannot use it in Revit due to many everyday use fittings for manufacture that we need are not available in Revit...
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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #9 on: Sep 24, 2020, 19:48:38 PM »
We have switched 100% over to Revit. There are some things that were "easier" in CADmep, but for the vast majority Revit is definitely getting the job done a little better and some of the features you just need to use add-ins for.
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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #10 on: Sep 25, 2020, 14:41:12 PM »
90 % Revit
10% CAD

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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #11 on: Sep 25, 2020, 14:57:44 PM »
We are in the process of switching. If a project was started in CAD we are going to finish it in CAD, all new projects will be in Revit. Wont have a clear picture of success for a while but moving that way.
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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #12 on: Sep 25, 2020, 18:13:14 PM »
AutoCAD and it seems it will be for a very long time as development of Fabrication in Revit is stalled (or so it seems) as it is in CAD, we cannot use it in Revit due to many everyday use fittings for manufacture that we need are not available in Revit...

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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #13 on: Sep 28, 2020, 04:45:16 AM »
Revit.
This is coming from a guy who started off with PAFEC Dogs PhII in 1991 moved to R11 AutoCAD 1992 and complained about the lack of CNC functionality. CADduct 2004 and thought my 2D skills was quicker. (Which they were).
Revit started playing with back in 2006 with the introduction of Building System 2005 but full use in Revit 2012 which allowed you to turn off centre lines on Rectangular ductwork woo hoo. Other users complained that CAD is better.
2017 Made the change from CADmep Fabrication users to full Revit. I miss the Auto spooling, the options tab for editing fabrication items, but the speed of everything else makes up for this. I wouldnt recommend using anything below Revit 2020 due to the earlier bugs.
I've always been the goto guy/setup person for all of the above technologies, database, ESTMEP, etc. and our staff now won't go back to using CADmep. The ITM's that don't work simply streamlined our fittings library. We assisted in the development of a standard across Australia BIMMEPAUS and push these efficiencies, standards nationwide.

Duct and Piping are ITM's everything else is native Revit and schedules are built around this workflow.

https://www.bimmepaus.com.au/initiative/about-us/

In short, we complain everytime we move to a different software until it becomes the norm again.
 
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Re: AutoCAD vs Revit
« Reply #14 on: Sep 28, 2020, 07:52:49 AM »
Currently in the process if shifting to Revit. Getting a lot more push back than I originally expected.
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