CADmep bolt and gasket sets specific to valve or accessory

[steph_a5]

I currently have my flanges configured for welds and gaskets, but I am looking to incorporate bolts into the setup. (as per image from the website https://www.darrenjyoung.com/category/software/revit/)

Could someone kindly share how to configure the ITM product list for the bolt components? I would appreciate any insights on how to set it up so it schedules correctly, ensuring the appropriate number of bolts and other relevant details are included.

I hope this doesn’t come across as presumptuous—I'm simply looking for some initial guidance or best practices on the most effective way to set up the "bolt" configuration.

 

[madcad]

Thats the logic I would use but if I were going that far I would investigate the possibility of the below scenarios.

Flange-Nut-Gasket-Bolt-Flange for Flange to Flange.
Flange-Nut-Gasket-Wafer Valve-Gasket-Bolt-Flange for Wafer Pattern hard face valve. Report Bolt Length as TBC for human input.
Flange-Set Bolt-resilient valve-Bolt-Flange for butterflies. Report Bolt Length as TBC for human input.

To have any chance of getting this to work it would all need to be your own content including the valves. Without the valves every part would need to be placed manually instead of just cutting in a valve.

One side issue for me might be model size. From an object quantity point for view e have went from the olden days of Flange-valve flange TO Outside weld-Inside Weld-Flange-Nut-Gasket-Valve-Gasket-Bolt-Flange-Inside Weld-Outside Weld.
3 objects to 11 objects for every valve.

The logic could be complex.

[steph_a5]

thanks bro, some specs we have are UNC studs imperial some are metric, some have tie rods etc i think its going to be too much hassle to be honest

have a lovely christmas x

[Axl]

It can be done, but requires each accessory have it's own Connectivity group and gender, and yes, it can do it automatically all together once all is correctly setup.

For instance my mechanical joint uses a pipe, a gland, a gasket, bolts, and the fitting, they all connect automatically, each forming a "pair" Connectivity group, for instance, the pipe will be male in the same group as the gland with one side female, the gland, then the second connector of the gland will have a different Connectivity Group and so on, it is just as any other fitting connection, but with multiple Connectivity groups to avoid confusion, and don't use any of the existing groups so it won't get confused by other connectors.

My method is that I draw each part in a piece of paper, assign group names and gender to each and then is easy to follow, it only takes a few minutes if I draw it first.

[dopefish]

Previously in this post I asked if ancillaries could be directly mapped to connectors. I wasn't told no but was not told yes either. So it turns out they can. Which might be relevant to this thread. I personally hate using ITMs for bolt kits and the like. See this post for details on mapping ancillaries to connectors.

https://www.xtracad.com/forum/index.php/topic,17744.0.html