Stratus publish from CAMduct

[Cam-burger]

Has anyone tried publishing a model from CAMduct back to stratus?  We want to use this process to update the model with any changes that are made to the model in CAMduct back into the stratus model.  We get an error that says "Publish Denied: CAMduct and ESTmep model Publishing is not enabled for this company".  See attached screenshot.

[cnash]

You have to request it from Stratus.
Contact your CSG or Sales Rep.

[Darren Young]

Keep in mind too, publishing from CAM/EST will not push the data back to the original CAD/Revit model.

[Cam-burger]

oh ok, that's good to know. Thanks

[cnash]

Keep in mind too, publishing from CAM/EST will not push the data back to the original CAD/Revit model.

This is correct, but it seems to work well in our testing. We have plans for it outside our coordination model.

[Cam-burger]

Keep in mind too, publishing from CAM/EST will not push the data back to the original CAD/Revit model.

This is correct, but it seems to work well in our testing. We have plans for it outside our coordination model.

So do you publish it as a new model that is not associated with the original model the maj is created from?

[cnash]

So do you publish it as a new model that is not associated with the original model the maj is created from?

We are not exporting the MAJ from the revit model.
Our plan is to use the MAJ publish for items not necessarily in the coordination model. So, those get published as their "own" model.

[Cam-burger]

Gotcha.  That's also what we wanted to do for any projects that were hand input into CAMduct.  I am meeting with a Stratus rep today and will ask

[davidratx]

Keep in mind too, publishing from CAM/EST will not push the data back to the original CAD/Revit model.

IMO I think it should. CAM models get scrubbed. Id like to see an "as modeled" BOM, and an "as manufactured" BOM. Also, the lack of a Quantity awareness is really hurting their reach into the sheetmetal workflows.

[dopefish]

Also, the lack of a Quantity awareness is really hurting their reach into the sheetmetal workflows.

Care to elaborate on this?

[davidratx]

Care to elaborate on this?

If you are processing an order of 10 identical things, Stratus wants you to create 10 instances of that same thing when CAMduct allows you to have 1 instance but a quantity of 10. Stratus is adding unnecessary complexity to process.

Stratus is BIM oriented so everything should have an instance, but if you intend to process non-BIM work through Stratus it does make things more complicated then they need to be. With the ability to publish CAMduct straight to Stratus it does open the opportunity to funnel direct to manufacturing orders through Stratus.

[cnash]

If you are processing an order of 10 identical things, Stratus wants you to create 10 instances of that same thing when CAMduct allows you to have 1 instance but a quantity of 10. Stratus is adding unnecessary complexity to process.

Stratus is BIM oriented so everything should have an instance, but if you intend to process non-BIM work through Stratus it does make things more complicated then they need to be. With the ability to publish CAMduct straight to Stratus it does open the opportunity to funnel direct to manufacturing orders through Stratus.

I have published stuff with quantities, but it comes through a bit weird. Kinda throws some of the parts all over the place inside Stratus. Haven't used it for actual production yet, just doing testing currently with EST publishing.

[davidratx]

I have published stuff with quantities, but it comes through a bit weird. Kinda throws some of the parts all over the place inside Stratus. Haven't used it for actual production yet, just doing testing currently with EST publishing.

The publisher copies the instance making 10 instances of the 1 thing. If you think of the workflow you now have a QR code problem. Stratus makes a QR code for each instance, CAMduct and Stratus dont have the same number of instances anymore. All shop labels would have the same QR code.

It really just needs to better understand quantity. Manufacturing with Quantity is pretty fundamental...how many of this thing am I making?

[cnash]

It really just needs to better understand quantity. Manufacturing with Quantity is pretty fundamental...how many of this thing am I making?

I do completely agree with this and have mentioned it.
Everyone else needs to mention it as well, I think. haha

[DotNet]

It really just needs to better understand quantity. Manufacturing with Quantity is pretty fundamental...how many of this thing am I making?

I do completely agree with this and have mentioned it.
Everyone else needs to mention it as well, I think. haha

I said this in a meeting with David over four years ago. My exact words were, "any product that claims to be a manufacturing solution with no concept of quantity, is questionable". I remember this very distinctly because I was told with a straight face "there are no quantities". I couldn't help but laugh, then quickly responded with the above to break the silence.