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Offline Eharris76Topic starter

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Creating ITM's From Scratch For Revit
« on: Oct 14, 2024, 17:45:06 PM »
In earlier Revit versions, I could create a 3D model in Fabrication CAD, save it as an ITM and create a button for the ITM in the service palette. Revit with a reloaded configuration would see the button and be able to use the part. Since the limiting of CID numbers that Revit now allows, a scratch built part is not available in Revit. If I were to model a part as an RFA in Revit and save as DWG would that part convert to an acceptable ITM?  Am open to suggestions as I hate mixing RFA and ITM's in the same project.

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Re: Creating ITM's From Scratch For Revit
« Reply #1 on: Oct 14, 2024, 20:09:18 PM »
I just had someone in another office at our company build a bunch of specialty blast gates and test ports for one of our jobs using CID#928 earlier this year and they work AMAZING.
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Re: Creating ITM's From Scratch For Revit
« Reply #2 on: Oct 25, 2024, 18:57:38 PM »
The simpler parts that we use are created using Product List-controlled patterns, such as 2523 for elbows and 2047 for tees, and so on. We only use converted 3D geometry for very complex parts such as valves that have connections all over them at weird angles, or in cases where the client wants to see super-detailed output.

For cases that need high-res geometry for some reason, as you describe, then yes, to your point, you CAN take geometry from Revit, save it as a .dwg, and then convert that part, in Fabrication, to an .itm file. However, that would result in a pretty big file. I've found it better to create the appropriate geometry within the AutoCAD/Fabrication environment first (or import it from a .stp file supplied by a manufacturer), and then convert it to an .itm, all within the Fabrication environment. At least for me this typically results in a much smaller file (fewer polygons).

(In certain cases you can also use Inventor to reduce geometry file sizes as well, before converting them.)

However, Jona also brings up a separate point, that you also allude to, that has thrown me off: converting 3D geometry to an .itm file results in Fabrication packing that into a pattern 928, which--to my knowledge--is not and has never been compatible with the Revit environment. Depending on the year you're working in, you'd have to then user Fabrication to do an extra step to repackage/convert that geometry from 928 to either 1175 or 2199 which, again, depending on the year, handle Product Listed data differently.

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Re: Creating ITM's From Scratch For Revit
« Reply #3 on: Oct 25, 2024, 22:22:22 PM »
there's a work-around for that... I just saw the video... someone can link it here, but it's still possible, even though autodesk decided to shoot their best detailers in the foot... 
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Re: Creating ITM's From Scratch For Revit
« Reply #4 on: Oct 30, 2024, 18:32:16 PM »
I think you can convert these parts to CIDs usable in Revit by going to your item folders, right clicking in open space and picking new>3d model item. This will let you browse to an existing ITM and it will make a new one with a new CID. Try it out!
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Re: Creating ITM's From Scratch For Revit
« Reply #5 on: Nov 02, 2024, 15:50:44 PM »
Convert them into a Model List. This will walk you through it.  https://youtu.be/udggs0NYyKg?feature=shared
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