Recessed Endcap Geometry Missing in Revit 2024 and Up

[cyan]

As the title says, we're noticing that the 3D geometry for recessed endcaps is not consistent with what you see in Fabrication software of old or what was there in 2023 and below.

However, other EC geometry seems fine. The colors for the lines are all the same as the colors for the other connectors, so it is not that old issue.

Anyone know what this is about? Just a new bug?

[cadbyken]

We have the same issue but it comes through CAM correctly.

[cyan]

Yeah, this is a detailer-only problem, really. Harder to verify you capped it, harder to select, etc.

It fabricates fine for us too.

[cyan]

We have the same issue but it comes through CAM correctly.

So is the set back of your end cap geometry achieved using a negative value in a dimension? Something like Length in CID 31?

I stumbled across an old post that Andy responded to. I don't have it handy right now, but it was something like 2006 old and the advice was to use the "node" of a connector to offset it either direction from the point of connection.

My suspicion is that Autodesk is only getting this question from places that used actual geometric dimension exploits, unknowingly, to achieve it.

Anyway, if you go into your connectors, select the recessed end cap connector, hit "Breakpoints" and put the proper negative adjustment in the C node, your end caps should set back again.

You can then probably set the ITM length/turnover dimension to 0, just so you don't have a useless negative dimension laying around.

[AN-detail]

Were you able to get it drawn properly in Revit?

We use CID 12 with a turnover in the connector, not the itm, and a negative dimension E in the breakpoints. Draws correctly in CAD & CAM, not Revit.

[cyan]

Yeah, draws perfectly in Revit now. Just had to identify that the negative value in the item had been a dimension, not a breakpoint.

[AN-detail]

Ok, the only way I could get it to work with how we build them (2" turnover in connector) was this:
Previously, draws wrong in Revit:
CID 12
Dimension C: 'Turnover': 0
Connector Turnover: 2
Breakpoint E.Line2: -1

New, draws correctly in Revit:
CID 12
Dimension C: 'Turnover': 0
Connector Turnover: 2
Breakpoint C.Gasket: -2
Breakpoint D.Line 1: -.01
Breakpoint E.Line 2: 1
I couldn't get it to draw without a positive/negative value in D and a positive value in E. The gasket symbol is a bit goofy looking in CAD but it functions properly.

[cyan]

I see. You're a step ahead of me and I misunderstood your question.

My first fix on this was just to get it to set back from the end so that the single line of the cap's planar face wasn't obscured by the end of the duct.

What was puzzling was that as I added a value to Dim E, it looked fine in everything except Revit. Your finding that a simple single negative value in D would make it visible.

Nice work. This was on my docket to figure out next, but that cleared it up.