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Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« on: Jun 24, 2009, 02:07:38 AM »
My co workers think that with est duct I should be able to do a complete take off of rectangular duct and fittings (without liner) then, because the customer forgot to tell us all the duct is lined, make a couple of key strokes and miraculously have the pieces increase their sizes and add in the liner.
I say it can't be done. They think it can. What's the deal?
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 24, 2009, 02:25:38 AM »
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My co workers think that with est duct I should be able to do a complete take off of rectangular duct and fittings (without liner) then, because the customer forgot to tell us all the duct is lined, make a couple of key strokes and miraculously have the pieces increase their sizes and add in the liner.
I say it can't be done. They think it can. What's the deal?
Sounds like they were paying attention during the sales presentation part where design line was covered. Ask the experts, it may be possible, if you don't mind the work in setting everything up. I'm not an expert on design line, or even a beginner. Too much going on in Vegas to catch it all, or even any of it. Definition of an expert: one who knows a great deal about very little.............
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 24, 2009, 02:44:57 AM »
It can be done with a simple script routine.  NOt sure if you have scripting enabled though.  Very little modifications done after the script is done.
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 24, 2009, 12:08:01 PM »
I appreciate the replies.
I went into a take off that I am in the process of doing and highlighted a piece of straight duct, then clicked on the file tab in the upper left hand corner of the EST-Duct screen and clicked on 'open script" What I see is a slew of options but nothing that says add liner. Is the option for converting to lined duct behind one of the doors that are available?
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 24, 2009, 12:15:05 PM »
Those are a list of the scripts that come canned with MAP software. All you need is for Ken to post the COD file. Put it in that folder and run the script and see if it works. The good news is that you have scripting available. Otherwise I don't think you would get those choices.
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 24, 2009, 12:55:26 PM »
Thanks for looking at that script list for me. Now, Ken if you read this topic again would you please allow me to use your .cod file?
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 24, 2009, 13:36:25 PM »
I believe I got this from the first LVUGM that I attended.  It works with the exception of transitions. The connector two needs to be changed.  ( should write a script for that as well.  :D
If you don't have scripting, you should see about getting it.
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #7 on: Jun 24, 2009, 13:40:04 PM »
To tell if you have scripting enabled, double click on the VIEWHASP.EXE file (it is in my CAD directory).  Scroll down to near the bottom and see if the ITEM SCRIPTING has a check next to it.
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 24, 2009, 13:56:39 PM »
I see that the box is not checked.
When I attempt to check it, the item above it highlights. as a matter of fact, anythig I try to check that same line highlights. Off to the search tab!
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #9 on: Jun 24, 2009, 14:03:07 PM »
Then you don't have it enabled.
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #10 on: Jun 24, 2009, 14:37:02 PM »
I'm checking with TSI via email to see if that is something we purchased and they neglected to give us. They (my company) bought EST-Duct with Design Line so we should be able to enable. When I try to run a script I get an error message "contact supplier"
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #11 on: Jun 24, 2009, 14:39:04 PM »
IN my experience, they don't even mention scripting.  Not sure why but I would guess that it was not included like everyone else.
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #12 on: Jun 24, 2009, 14:46:10 PM »
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they don't even mention scripting.  Not sure why

Why would they mention that you can buy something that fixes missing funtionality in the program that you are purchasing?

I am surprised that he can even see the list of scripts if it is not enabled.
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #13 on: Jun 24, 2009, 14:51:47 PM »
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Why would they mention that you can buy something that fixes missing funtionality in the program that you are purchasing? .

LOL, well you could day that it allows you to edit items real fast.  I showed some perspective clients what scripting can do for them and they were surprised they never heard of it.  One purchased it (and some of my programming) and the other one hasn't hired me yet.

We should set up some show and tell in a thread one day to show off their scripting abilities.   Video only so their hard work isn't taken.  I am fascianated by how people do things and there are some really knowledgeable people on here about this program and scripting.
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Re: Add duct liner to a job AFTER take off is complete?
« Reply #14 on: Jun 24, 2009, 14:59:47 PM »
I'm being told by TSI that I need the "code" to enable scripting.
They didn't say if I had to buy the codes or I  should already have them. That was my question to back to them.
They have everything I need, for a price of course!
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