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Offline AlinaTopic starter

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Revit dimensioning
« on: Feb 05, 2018, 18:24:07 PM »
Started to make spools out of Revit model with Fabrication parts and run into issues..
1. How do you dimension in ISO? I am not able to do any midpoints, barely can snap to the ends. It ssems like really time consuming task right now
2. Was not able to make my filters work to set colors for each spool.
3. Schedule that I created did not bring any data from the spool.
I used this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6HkCIof5Zs

Your help would be really appreciated! Maybe you know good links where they show how to spool with Fabrication parts?
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Re: Revit dimensioning
« Reply #1 on: Feb 06, 2018, 13:29:47 PM »
I don't have the liberty to watch much of that video right now, so pardon anything redundant:

1. 3D views must have their orientation locked prior to annotation and you will then have to manage your workplanes to affect where the annotations show up. I highly recommend getting a standard down that uses 3D for visuals and using 2D for dimensions and annotation, at least while you get used to Revit. You'll spin your wheels too much otherwise.

2. Since Fabrication Parts were quite new to the engine in 2016, they got view filters to work correctly on their projection lines, but not surface patterns. In other words, you can color the lines, but not fill the lines in with anything but gray. I know the video is in 2014 and it seems to work there, but those aren't fab parts. If you're in 2017 or above, let me know. Because you should be able to do what you want in that case.

3. I would estimate that something is going wrong with the schedule filters, itemization, or something else. I'd either have to see your Rvt file, or screenshots of the schedule's field/filters/sorting, etc.

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Re: Revit dimensioning
« Reply #2 on: Feb 06, 2018, 14:44:26 PM »
I am using Revit 2018.2 Will try to use workplanes and see how it goes. Now I recalled that I was not able to do any tags either.
I save my Revit file here https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfiwftctz4ldcns/Sample%20Project.rvt?dl=0

 Thanks so much for your time and help

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Re: Revit dimensioning
« Reply #3 on: Feb 07, 2018, 16:16:04 PM »
There's definitely some help to offer after looking at it. The video being in 2014 on Revit pipe and fittings caused some confusion.

I can post an edit of your sample and some more info later in the day, assuming that I remember to. :P

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Re: Revit dimensioning
« Reply #4 on: Feb 07, 2018, 18:01:46 PM »
Thank you very much for taking time and looking into it. Looking forward to hear back

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Re: Revit dimensioning
« Reply #5 on: Feb 08, 2018, 13:11:29 PM »
I made some minimal tweaks in here that should serve as examples.
I screenshotted the project browser where you should look to see my changes (see attached image)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n3hj792vzzbfc8i/Sample%20Project.rvt?dl=0

As far as a written description of the things that I think will assist you, I'm more interested in informing you of things that will help you make more informed searches, and more informed decisions about what's relevant to what you're trying to do.

Prior to Revit 2015, Revit had mechanical components of all kinds, but they were not compatible with Autodesk Fabrication whatsoever. They were independent of that platform. Autodesk later made the decision to start making it possible to use your Fabrication ITMs and libraries in Revit, and thus began building "Fabrication Parts" which are significantly different from the ducts, pipes, and fittings that were native to Revit at the time.

So, after 2015, you had two types of each MEP content type. The "design" revit families which include duct, pipe, duct fittings, pipe fittings, etc. And then you have the detail level Fabrication parts. In 2016 they were categorized as Fabrication Parts, in 2018 they are further broken out to MEP Fabrication Ductwork, MEP Fabrication Pipework, etc.

This is important because when creating a schedule for your assembly (spool), you understand that a schedule for "pipe" is a schedule for design pipe. Not fabrication pipe. And if you drew with MEP Fabrication Pipework, your schedule is not going to show anything. But an MEP Fab Pipework schedule will. Make sense?

On the subject of using assemblies. Each assembly should define one spool. When making your next spool, you are thereby making a new assembly, and the sheets and views will be under that one. In the project browser, try right clicking the assembly itself and use the "Create Assembly Views" dialog. This suckerfish is quite nice. Everything it spits out will not clutter your project views/sheets/schedules at all. They will be contained within the assembly itself. The schedules will not even need to filter for the assembly name.

Anyway, I hope that helps kick things off. Again, I understand how frustrating it is to try to get started in Revit because the information often contradicts itself. The better you know the history of the product, the easier it starts to get (if what you're reading is timestamped). Cheers.

« Last Edit: Feb 08, 2018, 18:53:55 PM by cyan »

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Re: Revit dimensioning
« Reply #6 on: Feb 08, 2018, 16:20:17 PM »
What a great help! I will dive into it and explore. 
Very nice people here! Thanks so much for all your help! There is no way I would find this type of answer anywhere else


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Re: Revit dimensioning
« Reply #7 on: Feb 08, 2018, 20:15:32 PM »
I came in early to write that up, so I'm glad to hear it was helpful (and wasn't telling you stuff that you already knew, which I was a wee bit concerned I was doing that)