gambitjr
CADD/HVAC Design
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Hi men,
What in the setup of the service template determines the autocad layer the material appears on? The problem I am having is that I select say the Hot Water Service Template and draw, but the piping shows that it is on the CHWR-3D layer in the Autocad Layers. Should'nt it be on the HWS or HWR layer, or is something messed up?
Last edited by gambitjr (24-September-2009 14:50:18)
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| 24-September-2009 14:49:09 |
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tnbndr
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Go to Setup Services and the Cad Types tab. That is where you layer names are determined. In your services you put in the Layer Tag 1 & Layer Tag 2 to create the layer that you want the service on. The Cad Types determines all of the sublayers created. The layering tab you set how you want the layer name built by putting the fields on the left in the order you like.
Sort of quick explanation but muddle around and you will see what happens.
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| 24-September-2009 16:35:28 |
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VirtualPilot
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I personally do not like the services determining what layer anything goes to what, I like to make job specific layers and then draw the items to those layers...only common things like insulation, hidden detail, text and such always go to layers I created, but the actual MAP Items, go to where I tell them to go....
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| 24-September-2009 16:38:32 |
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Jabbster
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VirtualPilot wrote:
I personally do not like the services determining what layer anything goes to what, I like to make job specific layers and then draw the items to those layers...only common things like insulation, hidden detail, text and such always go to layers I created, but the actual MAP Items, go to where I tell them to go.... |
How do you do that?
Doesn't that cause you to get the error stating item does not match service layer or something like that?
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| 24-September-2009 17:00:43 |
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VirtualPilot
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I get no errors....I just never set-up layers in the services for every kind of ducts... this way I can create my own layers, like, _AHU-1 RECT SUPPLY, and place the corresponding ducts to that layer and so on...
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| 24-September-2009 18:07:05 |
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gambitjr
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
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James,
I got the same as you did...I drew on whatever layer I was on and then moved it to the correct MAP layer, and got the same exact message you did about not matching the service layer.
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| 24-September-2009 18:40:16 |
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c2k
I got nothing, or is it something? I forget.
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Personally I am having no problems using the services to assign layers and everything goes where I want. But it looks like you are wanting to assign things to be unit specific, etc. You could probably do that with a section or status.... but hey if it works for you, why change right?
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| 24-September-2009 18:42:47 |
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cadbyken
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Are you inserting it automatically via your services?
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| 24-September-2009 18:42:53 |
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Jabbster
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I've always allowed CADDuct to assign layers based upon my services and sections. I use sections to establish the type of system instead of services. Not saying it's the right way, it's the way I got used to doing things. Once in a while I draw some duct and it's not on a service or section and it gives me that error.
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| 24-September-2009 20:44:59 |
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gambitjr
CADD/HVAC Design
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Registered: 05-December-2007
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i think i figured it out....when i would pick he service template, say HWS, and draw with it, i noticed that the layer was CHWR..i found through edit service template, that when the service template was setup just about eveything in it was set to CHWR...i changed all the HWS and HWR to agree with the service template, and so far it seems to work fine....
dont yell at me for how dumb i am...i didnt setup the service templates
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| 25-September-2009 14:25:36 |
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cadbyken
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Not dumb at all. We have all done stuff similar. You can look around and see some of my more embarrassing things...unless I find them first and delete them. 
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| 25-September-2009 14:30:11 |
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TomParagon
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I hate to have to dust this thread off, but I was just curious if there is just a toggle to turn this "does not match service layer" warning off or not. Sometimes, when I draw cadduct items, I end up switching them to a layer that I call for example "SALP_Prelim" because it has not yet been comfirmed. Everything that IS confirmed goes on the designated layer. I know that my prelim layer does not match the service layer, but I don't need to see that everytime I save or open.
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