cadbyken
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bparrell wrote:
Interesting.I have seen the inverted Y and non inverted and went to engineering and ask what they use(design build) and they stated supply symbol. |
Same here, but never thought of the spec implications. Hmmm.
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fishandchips
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bparrell wrote:
Interesting.I have seen the inverted Y and non inverted and went to engineering and ask what they use(design build) and they stated supply symbol. |
probably in revit mep right?
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bparrell
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AprilNewland wrote:
i think this sounds great! and after for those of us that are NEW to post some screen shots or directions on how to get it to work.  |
To get your symbol on straight right click/rise and fall
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CaddMan22
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Hi Andy
Just downloaded and installed 2.38.197. And no present in the stocking :-(
When do you think we will get the rise/fall symbols in the setup services dialouge box ?
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VirtualPilot
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I will bet it will be on LOK 18 release....
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tnbndr
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Dino:
Any good changes in this version? Do you have a change file that you can post. I did not see one.
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cadbyken
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tnbndr wrote:
Dino:
Any good changes in this version? Do you have a change file that you can post. I did not see one. |
I was thinking the same thing. I should be current in a couple of weeks though!
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bparrell
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There's a change file.
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Andy Robins
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The 197 build is just a patch update with minor fixes, no new features, we are aiming for a LOK 18 major update first week of the New year.
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This is released, any feedback?
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CaddMan22
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Waiting for my new codes to be able to try it.
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cadbob
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Andy Robins wrote:
This is released, any feedback? |
LOL your asking for it huh?
I think its awesome so far.
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CJ
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Andy Robins wrote:
This is released, any feedback? |
I love it Andy
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Andy Robins
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CaddMan22 wrote:
Waiting for my new codes to be able to try it. |
huh, we issued the LOK 18 codes 2 weeks ago!
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VirtualPilot wrote:
I believe this has been requested before....I would also like to see it implemented to the Oval Ducts, as of now, it only works with Rect and Round... |
Did I ever get sent a graphic of what is required for Oval?, I forget
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| 07-February-2010 14:37:30 |
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Andy Robins
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Ensure you check out the context right click menu, there are some options there, these allow you to add the symbols onto a straight without a bend, as in a Riser, also to change ends.
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| 07-February-2010 14:39:36 |
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cadbob
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Andy Robins wrote:
VirtualPilot wrote:
I believe this has been requested before....I would also like to see it implemented to the Oval Ducts, as of now, it only works with Rect and Round... |
Did I ever get sent a graphic of what is required for Oval?, I forget |
I would same same as Rectangular would be fine! I would like to see the Graphics of the rectangular in the Round also. But then again Ying-Yang is fine! (I laugh everytime I type that)
My Opinion anyway! Anyone???
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VirtualPilot
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Andy Robins wrote:
VirtualPilot wrote:
I believe this has been requested before....I would also like to see it implemented to the Oval Ducts, as of now, it only works with Rect and Round... |
Did I ever get sent a graphic of what is required for Oval?, I forget |
Andy, it would be the same identical ones for rectangular ducts, only applied to oval ducts... 
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| 08-February-2010 12:46:44 |
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VirtualPilot
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I see that there are now added "numbers" to the Riser Fall symbols, but my question is how do you use them on a single drawing where ALL systems exists??? Supply, Return, Exhaust, Outside Air, etc...
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VirtualPilot
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We wanted this, but you would have to have many different database sets for it to work, as it only changes if you change the number in the database and that changes every instance of every duct in the drawing, don't think is even possible.... this needs to be, maybe, Service driven?....
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VirtualPilot
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It also didn't make it to the round....but I can see how that could be a little difficult to come up with different symbols for round....
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Aren't these service based? I thought that was what was discussed.
So you have a supply service and set the rise/fall symbol for that service.
Then you would have a different symbol for an exhaust service. And so on....
But if your services were not set up that way you would be screwed.
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bparrell
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Vp,your not set up right if that's what you have to do.All works nice Andy.Oval is the same a rect as VP stated
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| 08-February-2010 14:12:22 |
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VirtualPilot
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I tried with Services, that didn't work... Bob, how did you get different symbols based on Supply, Return, OA, etc??? Maybe we need a tutorial here....
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| 08-February-2010 16:05:55 |
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bparrell
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All you have to do is set the airflow per each service and scroll all the way to the right were the tabs are and set the style.
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VirtualPilot
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Ahhhh sweet...... guess I should have read the manual... LOL
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VirtualPilot wrote:
Ahhhh sweet...... guess I should have read the manual... LOL |
LOL Glad you found it was just ready to pitch in
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| 08-February-2010 22:27:52 |
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Andy Robins wrote:
CaddMan22 wrote:
Waiting for my new codes to be able to try it. |
huh, we issued the LOK 18 codes 2 weeks ago! |
TSI, hasn't yet. Only to those who happened to have had renewed their support contract. I was told next month (March) for the release of the lock 18 version for TSI. You can get your codes sooner if you renew your contract early or so I'm told.
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| 10-February-2010 23:53:15 |
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Andy Robins
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Ok, what happens when looking into 2 Oval ducts, lets say 24x12 and one is rotated 90 in the Z, so its 12x24, what happens to the Exhaust symbol, does it still go from bottom left to top right, and bottom right to middle.
Also where is a "corner" on Oval, i.e. where do the line go to? the start and end of the arc?
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| 11-February-2010 18:08:48 |
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VirtualPilot
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I have played with this for a little while and can see how it could be very difficult to implement...
If we use the "end" of the arcs that form the oval duct, it will work as long as the major size is not too close to the minor size...where the flat portion is too small...that would end up with tiny lines...
Perhaps other can also come up with other ideas...
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